This is the perfect episode to end 2019 with! Listen to this one if you want to feel inspired and uplifted, filled with energy and actionable tips to support you in living your dreams in 2020!

Peter Daniel is, along with his delightful life partner Beryn, creator of Soaring Free Superfoods, a company which provides the highest quality superfoods to South Africa (eg: goji, maca, cacao, etc). He is a man who lives his words. He is creating Eden on their tucked-away farm, is a father to two gorgeous little humans and lives life deeply connected to his family, friends, earth and business.

We dive into so many wild topics in this one, so I recommend keeping your mind and heart wide open! I hope to hear your thoughts, and please enjoy the show-notes below, filled with many of the things we talked about, for your further exploration.


Please note that this is an automated transcript. It is generally accurate, but I don't have the resources to go and manually edit it. Thank you for your patience and I hope that you enjoy.

Nate Maingard 0:00
This is it the end of 2019. This is the final episode of this year. And in fact, I've decided to do this podcast as a seasonal podcast now. So this is the end of season one, almost 60 episodes in and we're finally going to start our second season. I'm going to be taking a few months off from the getting naked with Nate podcast, I have some huge changes that I'm looking at. I'm working with a business mentor for the first time. Hi, Martin, thank you. And I am wanting to bring together all of these pieces of what I call myself. As you've heard me speak in previous episodes, I'm even thinking have a way to reclaim my name Nathan, which is what my name is, instead of being called Nate, which is how I've been known online and offline for many, many years. But for some reason, Nathan just is calling me. And that's kind of connected to the biggest story of change-making in my life. This podcast. I love doing it. I find it amazing. I would love to hear from you as well. Have there been any episodes that stood out for you? Has there been anything you've learned anything, you've gained anything, you've lost? All of that wonderful stuff. I know that there is, so far a small audience for this podcast. And I also believe that it is of great value to those of you who do listen to it. So as one of the people now listening, thank you so much, even if this is your first time. And yeah, I want to bring it all together, I want to bring my Patreon page, my podcast, my music, I want to get into public speaking, I want to kind of bring together all of these varied forms of knowledge and information I've been gathering over the years, the deep empathy that I've always felt the sensitivity, the vulnerability, the sexuality, kind of like and turn it into something that really offers massive value that I understand the value as much as everyone else does. And I really know what I what I should be focusing on what will bring value to you what will bring value to me and how I can be of how I can most serve the world. really wonderful. My teachers some years ago in London, we were chatting about the meaning of life. And he said the meaning of life is quite simply to be happy, do service and to live and die consciously. And so yeah, this year, as you'll know, I've been working super hard on on my mental health and my overall well being, and I'm feeling in a substantially improved state at this point, compared to the beginning of the depression and chronic pain and burnout. I mean, there's still pain, there's still depression, there's all the things but I feel like I'm able to converse with them better. And there's a there's a, there's a movement in the direction of stability, which is an incredible, like, so grateful for that. And yeah, and I want to do more of this. I want to bring it all together. And that's why I think this is the absolute perfect episode to end 2019 on this man, Peter, Daniel is the just one of the great sort of researchers or self experiment as I've ever met. He and his wife, Baron, I met In 2007, late 2007, I was living in London at the time. And what before I met them I was living in London, I was super depressed. I was I didn't have a job, but my mom was giving me money every month I was in my early 20s, sort of getting close to my mid 20s. And I just felt like I just didn't have any sense of meaning like, what is it a fall? I was drinking a lot. I was just,

yeah, just it was rough. And at some point, my mom said to me, like, why don't you come back to South Africa and let's see what we can do. Which was amazing that she said that because our relationship has been so fraught with disconnection and and lost opportunities. And it was actually a really generous thing of her. If you know that. I'd like us at some point. I'm hoping to get her on here and and to actually talk candidly about some of our history together to maybe give you some insight and hope for your own relationships that if if everyone within a relationship is willing to do the work, there is always a possibility of of healing and reconciliation. Anyway, so my mom said come back to sa and I did that. And then she took me to these people this like tiny little office in Simon's town at the tip of South Africa. And they were selling these weird foods. I didn't know much about goji berries and cacao powder and maca. What are these strange substances? I did not know. And my mom bought me some of them and they told me if you put these in smoothies, you can make a smoothie Adele's I've always really enjoyed smoothies. So let me try that out. And that was the only thing I changed at that point was that I just started adding in a smoothie every morning with these particular superfoods. And within what I started to notice almost immediately within a week or so it was like, Okay, I have my smoothie in the morning, you know, yeah, it's a big smoothie and it's got a lot of stuff in it. And I feel really good I drink the smoothie. I feel amazing. I'm not hungry. I feel good, solid, sustainable energy. And then I am only hungry at like one o'clock in the afternoon was usually I'm the kind of guy needs to keep topping up because my blood sugar was all over the place. And then I'd have my usual lunch of like toast with cheese and, and cold meats and like all kinds of an old Not only that, but the bread itself was processed bread, the things I was putting on it with process things, process butter, processed all the things, I'd have that and I literally sometimes have to go and have a nap like it was really my energy levels was just crash accelerating. This doesn't make sense. How is it that one meal in the day makes me feel amazing, and then the very next meal, I kind of just want to go to bed afterwards. It doesn't make sense. So I went back to them and I said, I don't know what you guys are doing. But I want to know, give me a job. And they did. I worked to them part time for two years, maybe around they had a market stall at a local weekly Saturday market. I'd be up at like five in the morning, go and gather stuff, the stuff from the office and then drive all the way through across town and I loved it. It was such a great job. And through that I started meeting all these different people and I actually used to they used to run these two day weekend courses, like raw raw food, raw food, veganism, plant based courses, and I and I went on those and they teach people about super foods and about moving away from processed foods moving towards a whole foods diet. And at that time was specifically plant based. And it was amazing. It really was a life altering experience. And I actually almost went into that instead of music, which is kind of wild. Like I, I felt like I found something and I'd never at that point I'd never played music professionally. I didn't think I could I didn't think I had what it took to be a musician. And sometimes I still wonder about that actually. But I'd so I

yeah, I committed to it. And I worked for them for a few years. Then I went back overseas to London, but this time I was in a whole different space. I was going to work in the raw food industry and the health food industry and I worked in a raw, raw vegan dessert kitchen for a while I worked in the cafe of a yoga studio in Camden, a chemical alchemy which was amazing. It doesn't exist anymore, but it was an incredible time. And then that was the first time I actually connected with inspiral lounge which was which doesn't exist anymore either. But that was a vegan Fast Food Cafe in London in Camden. And I started briefly at that time ran an open mic there, which then became the open mic I took over in 2013, full time for almost two years. And that's where I met all of my friends, the lyrical nomads, and all these connections anyway. So like, all the ways that life into weaves us into the things we least expect. So I don't know, if you're wondering how does all of this fit into the bigger picture of your life when you're kind of having these disconnected pieces going on? I would invite you to somehow and trust and just know that it is a part of a bigger story that all the things will if you just keep following that like every time you hear that ask that question of is this taking me in a direction I feel like I need to go and if the answer is yes, then trust that. Anyway, I had reached the point where I came back to South Africa and I started working for them again and full time for soaring free super foods in South Africa. This was the beginning of 2011. And at that point, I had not been through a period of celibacy, because I'd realised that I was my sexual sort of integrity was was way off and that I needed to relook at how I was approaching my life and women and relationships and all these things, big self growth and things, sort of working for them full time for sewing free super foods, and I was like, This is what I'm going to do. And within a month or two of it, I was so down to so depressed, and it was nothing to do with them. Working with them was incredible as inspiring people in an amazing place. But I had this realisation this awakening where I realised if I don't commit to the thing I've always dreamed to do, which is to play music to tell stories and sing songs. It has called me again and again and again, no matter what else I've done. There's always been this thread of sharing the stories sharing the songs, and I went into a meeting one morning with Peter and Baron and I said and we were meant to be discussing the next three months or like what I'm going to do in the in the company, and they were a growing company, they were hiring staff I you know, I had the use of a company card with was like a really good starting job. It was amazing. And I just sat down and looked at him as a guys I love you and I love what you're doing but I can't do this, I gotta go play music like I just have to do it and and I think they knew I must actually asked them about this but I feel it because they looked at each other and they had this little smiles on their faces. And I was just like, they knew this, they kind of they just gave me the time and space to and that's the kind of people that they are they're they're so switched on and so connected and so doing the work of being sincere in integrity humans and since then the company has continued to grow. They were the first people who brought these incredible super foods that are so common around the world. They were the first people who brought them to South Africa. And when I say superfoods, I mean specific foods that have very high concentrations of nutrients, minerals, etc. The word superfood has been used for a lot of different things now but things like goji berries and maca and raw cacao and all of them must be organic, all of them sustainably harvested. Peter and Ben really go to extense that I've never seen any Well, I don't know. I don't know that many people personally but I know that they they literally go out to the farms they meet with the families who are doing the farming they have such a high standard. And they've actually moved themselves to a farm in the last few years and in the show notes you'll see at naked with Nate calm as always, that's where you'll find everything you need. A negative, you'll find the the show notes that have Peter shared photos of before and after when they moved on to the land or when they first bought it, and the little house you can see, and then seven years later, and you'll see what they've done. They've created paradise for themselves paradise on earth. I mean, it's like truly, it's truly miraculous to see Peters done the same thing to his body. You'll see there's a before and after photo of him after making some dietary changes that we talked about to the end of the episode. And there was just so much good stuff in this episode. I can't even handle it. It's taken me it's taken me like an entire day to gather all of the links and the things that we talked about and the quotes and go through a lot really like this has been satellite Love, love and such a labour of inspiration. I've been really inspired. Going through this, I think you're going to get so much out of it. It's like, and the reason I think this is the perfect episode to end this year on is because I want to dive more into these kinds of things. I want to share this knowledge with you and with anyone out there because I feel like we have the opportunity now more than ever to make choices. We have the choice of how we want to move forward collectively, and it hasn't been working. It clearly hasn't our education systems, our financial systems, our food systems, our transport systems, like the way that we've built the society is not in such a way as to support human expansion and well being and what's the word contentment even? And, and also not even speaking about the multitudes of other creatures that share this planet with us? I think it's time for a change. You know that I know that so what are we doing? Let's make it happen.

So yeah, really, that's kind of what I'm going into 20 20th that's what my feelings are. That's my motivation. I'm going in. I'm taking a break this podcast. We'll probably only start again I think in February, possibly even March, maybe earlier. But But yeah, probably febrile March. I really want to take time to go inward to take deep scope. Look at Myself. I mean, what we achieved this year, I finally released the album that I it took me three years to release it. And I did it a frickin stuck with the thanks to your support and my patrons on Patreon. Like we did it together, and it's fucking amazing. It happened. I completed a course to become a lifeline, a suicide hotline counsellor that's something I've been wanting to do for so long is to give back in that way. And and I excelled at it. And that was an incredible feeling for me, I went into it feeling so insecure and so long myself. And the biggest feedback I had throughout the entire course was how good I am at it. And that that is actually what's holding me back is this idea I have in my head of how unworthy I am. And so all I had to do was say, Okay, I am worthy. And then here it is. Now I can do it. Fantastic. So yes, in this episode, Peter and I discussed a broad range of really interesting really varied stuff. If you feel over It's, it's okay. Don't try to take it all and just let it flow through you. If it sticks if something connects with your heart and you feel this little like that tingling that opening that desire to take a deep breath and go are Yes, that connects with that dive into that whatever that is connect go further he has, we chat about how to reprogram our negative conditioning about pattern interrupts, which is a neuro linguistic programming technique that he used on me. And then I used on myself, I'd lost something, a battery or something. And he helped me to find it by distracting by interrupting the pattern of Oh, I can't find it. And changing that story in my head in a moment. He told me about why we should write lists of the things which we really enjoy, which make us really enjoy life so that when we're down, we have this Arsenal as he calls it, an arsenal a toolkit that we can refer back to and go Okay, I'm feeling like shit today. What is it that I really love? Go through that list, look at it and wait till one of those things resonate and then do that thing and it will work. It's amazing. I don't know how I didn't even think about that. before. We answer it talks about briefly. That's more towards the end again. You're not wealthy, can you afford to be healthy? I thought that was such a great little moment. Oh my gosh, you're talking about so much about blockchain and like cryptocurrencies and how they could potentially help us to save the planet. He talks about how his diet has shifted after he was vegan for seven years and not just vegan but like the plant based raw food like the most high quality everything you could imagine. And how he's gotten from 63 kilos and always struggled in his life to to build muscle to put on weight. That's one of the big problems he had. He's now it's up to 77 kilos, man and the guy looks good he's strong he's solid you'll see the photos and the before and after. Amazing stuff. So yeah, I really just want to say thank you so much to you who has made this possible I I don't know if this podcast is is worth a grain of salt like it is according to some of you I've the reviews that you've left on iTunes have been amazing. I think there's 25 written like five star reviews, which is so cool. Thank you so much. It's it's been a I love doing this podcast. I want it to have more structure. I've got some epic Guest sign up for next to Johann Hari the guy who wrote last connections a book about the real causes of depression and how to how to help heal depression really amazing stuff very surprising results that he came up with. He found that after going through all the data and research I also have anyway so many people and and yeah, really just this desire to serve and that's what I keep coming back to is that I want to serve and to do that I have to be the healthiest person I can have to be selfish. We talked about that in this episode as well. I need to really look after myself so that I can connect and look after anyone else. And and serve be here to give you whatever it is that you need, through my honesty through my integrity through my truth. Thank you so much for getting naked with Nate, what a pleasure and please enjoy this episode with my friend Peter Daniel. That's the truth and so are you and it's so okay to remember that it's okay to really feel Feel every little bit? And actually, let's well let's start there. I mean, the I'm gonna definitely I would you share the photos with me too. Because Because basically we're sitting right now in literally paradise. I mean, there's there's just green and little shelters and beauty all around us and it's amazing. And then yesterday you showed us the photo of the before. And so I guess the one of the questions that's been coming up for me is around hope, because you seem to be someone who's very is hopeful, who's optimistic. And it's one of the things I've really been struggling with for a while because I'm looking out at the world and I'm seeing death, decay, destruction, collapse, draw all of that. So Are you hopeful and if so, why?

Peter Daniel 16:50

And it's really simple. We have no control over what happens in the next moment. Actually. What happens tomorrow what happens the week after. So whether it's calamity, or fortune, we do not control the outcome. Like we can influence it maybe with our intentions and living in a certain way. But tomorrow could be the end of it all, the grand experiment could dissolve. So I just go, I can't base my state on something that could be coming down the line. And at the same time, I'll bet account based on the past stuff that's happened, because otherwise I'm totally out of this present moment. So choose I choose every day to have fun, to enjoy myself to love to love. It's choice every day. You know, all of us come from a damaged childhood thoroughly under loved. I mean, there's a lot to cry about. Yeah, you know, but you can also get to a point where you're like, wow, that was really rough. You know, I'm so sorry. You had to go through that speaking to your own inner child and then just like a busy carrying it around day to day is not serving anyone positively. It's just making the whole situation words in the world in your own life. I mean, I deeply believe that we're a reflection of the whole you know, holistic model integrated fractal fractal model. So you are a part that reflects the whole and so you can see people more and more sick today I'm almost sick because the earth is more and more sick you know this is a direct reflection as far as I can tell so and and that at some jumpers then a reflection of our minds and our internal dialogues and our internal belief systems. And then that gets our picture in the world because the world is always trying to show you what it is you working with. You know, so you bring people into your life to show you certain things, you know that you need to heal within yourself. But so often people don't recognise that that person is just a reflection for them. They go like no was that person they did this. They made me feel like this, they and then you lose all your power because you have no control over the situation anymore. Because how can you change someone else? I mean, your self is hard enough. And this, you know, I've believed in the mirror concept for many, many years from my early shamanic studies. that the world is a reflection. When you see it that way, you can work with your world, because the reflection comes in, and then you can honour it for being an aspect of yourself. And that's probably the hardest thing. Well, I mean, that's total responsibility for life. So, you know, we start small, we start with ourselves, and then we can maybe go to a significant other. And that's the great gift in, you know, close long term relationships is that you get to delve so deeply into your own psyche through another, you know, without getting caught in them there, you know, projecting side stuff, because then you're just stuck in that loop in

Unknown Speaker 19:38
the answer your question that

Nate Maingard 19:41
you did, and you opened up so many directions.

Peter Daniel 19:43
The other way I've done it is I've I mean, you start with your mind in cultivating a discipline about how you speak to yourself, how you speak about others. I mean, it's the classic positivity story. How can you keep you know the status of thousand 250 negatives to one positive Most children growing up. So our conditioning and our programming is that there's a problem everywhere all the time and the main problem is us. We're like terrible for whatever reason through schooling process teaching us that I mean so many ways. So how do you unpick that? We don't pick that by judiciously monitoring your thinking. And I mean, there lots of techniques and things that people speak about. But one of the things I found really amazing is I surround myself with beauty. So whatever space I'm in when I'm living in a city or Archie I'm going to get in the garden because for me nature is the most beautiful thing there is, I mean, as we are nature to so we plants we put trees and we do vegetable gardens, you know, just start like touching the earth gently and lightly the way we'd like to be touched by other people. So it's, it's with consciousness and with Kim and he has always responds positively. I mean, I deeply believe that our purpose on this planet is to be gardeners you know of Eden. So, we found the space in Eden, I mean, took us 1213 years of looking for a space about our intention when we were 19 on a beach in Cape Town was live out of the city and start experiencing harmony with nature. So just consistently holding a vision, you know, that's how you change reality.

Nate Maingard 21:10
I love that I feel like one of the reasons I have been so interested talk to talk to you about there's so many reasons but one of them is the is around like us you do you just seem so joyful all the time. And you in many ways, you're like, you're just flamboyant and you're all over the place. And yet you're living the life that you dream, and you're doing it like really intentionally and I think it's that beauty of paying attention to the people who are actually representing the things that we want more of in the world. So like, where if I go to a doctor and the doctor is like overweight, terribly overweight and very sick looking and there's going like, Oh, no, I can help you be better. It's there's that concern and then also in your case, like if you've got you know, you always wearing flowing clothes, you look like a hippie basically unlike in and the sort of connotation around the hippie as someone who talks a lot and often doesn't actually act as much, which is part of the negative connotation that obviously positive. And yet you are running one of the most successful businesses I've ever seen. And you're helping so many people in so many ways. And that's why I've been so excited because everything you've said, there's a lot of stuff you said right now, which is very far out there in terms of like, Oh, well, if you just change your mind, then everything gets better. And it's like all these like,

Peter Daniel 22:20
the practical nuts and bolts. Yeah, like, the actual

Nate Maingard 22:22
technique. Exactly, which is what I love so and also to anyone listening, obviously, this I will put as much of this as I can in the show notes. So definitely don't want to stress too much if there's too much information, but because you are like a fountain of knowledge through your own work, which is incredible. So I suppose it on that point, what is one simple thing that someone could start if they listening right now and they go, Well, if I could just change my mind, maybe it's things would start shifting where where would you start?

Peter Daniel 22:49
The first thing I would mention is gratitude. I think so much of the negative conditioning is fear based, if not all of it. So it's this constant loop of fear, which leads to depression or anxiety. Depression, you know, fear of what happened in the past and regret and anxiety and uncertainty about the future. So you get into a space of gratitude. So I'd recommend doing if you can do it twice a day takes a minute. After you wake up, you just go five things I'm grateful for in your head, but it's better if you write it down. keep a journal, five things in the morning, just five things in the evening. Five things. It's the same five things, hey, it's a starts, and you'll eventually start being able to ride 50 100 500 things when you're at a point of being able to ride just straight 500 things you're grateful for. There's no space for a fear story in your head anymore. You'd like pushed it out. That's fantastic. I love the ad in the good Yang. Yeah, because there is like the take out but yeah, that can be so hard to unpick Exactly. So you just overwhelm it with good stuff.

Nate Maingard 23:45
That's always been ever since I first did a course with you. I think that was one of the first things you'd you would say to people is like, I know this can be overwhelming. There's all these different changes but just adding a smoothie a day, adding a really good quality, delicious healthy superfood smoothie. And then go from there. So same with that adding the gratitude, adding the high quality content and and also its sustenance and then go from there. I think

Peter Daniel 24:10
that's good advice and it's amazing when you you know because we obviously will move from positivity to negativity openness to closed it's a flowing the day. I mean I think for a lot of people it's more on the close side and maybe some others it's more on the open side but they'll come in is always a trigger in your environment. someone does something someone says something you do something you kick the couch, whatever it is, and it's just bam sun you back in that negative conditioning and self doubt and negative self talk and how do you then get out of it? You know, that's when you need your techniques. That's when you need your list of these are the things that really make me enjoy life, whether it's music, or dancing, or walking in nature or meditating, and everyone's got their own list. So one of the great practices I recommend is that you write that list when you feeling good, because you feeling good. You can connect to all of that when you're not feeling good. You can really connected it's a Different vibrational states. So quite often it's like coming just such a shutdown and feel like from within the space like I need help you know and you can ask other people to help you obviously but if you've helped yourself by when you've been in a good space making your list, put it on your fridge, put it somewhere where you can see it so all you have to do when you're in that space is walk around the corner, stare at your list, let the word sink in and one of those things on your list is going to fill that day go being gratitude.

Nate Maingard 25:28
Third that I you just talked directly to me right now because that is one of the crux cool things that I have struggled with is like putting positivity in place putting practices in place and then the trigger happens whatever that trigger is and I just pulled the fuck apart like it just collapses. And I'm like back in bed going nothing has any meaning and there's no point to anything and I don't have that list. I'm going to write that list that is fantastic. Because I because right now I'm in that I'm like oh my gosh, I have so many things to be excited about. And and I totally because in the opposite space, as So much sense it's a different vibrational state there's literally no way for me when I'm there to suddenly be I imagine how it was like but if there's that list I go look Dude, you wrote this list you know these things connected them which ones talking to you today?

Peter Daniel 26:12
And you could I mean, that list is your day, it's your arsenal. Yeah, cuz I mean, that is the the battle only battle is the battle with yourself in your mind. You know, the negative conditioning and the positive aspirations just trying to bash it out. Bruce Lipton, who I love his work, I mean, he talks about the unconscious unconscious mind and how for most people when they're awake, they're actually unconscious. They're just replaying patterns through their day. And quite often those patterns as we sit on negative or negative spiral, and if you have children in that space, and then the children just get the negative pattern, you know, and if you ask them, like, No, I'm generally a happy kind of person. But if you actually track it, which is another good tool, you can actually track your state. You set an alarm for every 30 minutes through the day or an hour. through the day, and every time you alarm goes off, you've got a little piece of paper, you got a note on your phone. And for that hour, you just give it a one out of 10. Wow. And you just go through the day like that just set an initial outline for how long like a few days, okay? because initially you're going to edit yourself. So you give yourself a more positive value. That's amazing. But after a while you've it'll go into subconscious you won't really notice you're doing it anymore. And you give yourself more honest feedback. Okay, and then you look and you go, so what is my state like most the day?

Nate Maingard 27:27
Wow. And so is that was that being exercised to

Peter Daniel 27:30
on those myself is the main thing like unless you know yourself, like you can't do anything about yourself. And knowing yourself means observing yourself, but he's observing her. There's always that tricky loop. You know, the word what do we call it yesterday? The default mode network egoic personality? Yeah. Or is there something higher or beyond that? Or is a different face of it? Right, exactly. Oh, man. So Bruce Lipton says listen, staying as conscious as you can throughout the day. So that kind of list because when you're in a positive state, you're in a more conscious state. It's like how do you manifest what he talks about, you know, when anything new comes into your life saying, This is beautiful, and this is amazing, and it makes you more awake and more alive, and then it becomes normal. And then it's like a normal, I mean, so kids are amazing. It's like, is my greatest teachers, because everything is new for them. So every day is just a day in and of itself of absolute newness and magic. And it's like I like absorb that from them and remind myself of when I was a child and could see that way.

Nate Maingard 28:30
Yeah, that's fantastic.

Peter Daniel 28:31
And that's it my world up, you know, where I'm surrounding myself with positive stuff. Yeah. And then also, I mean, at some point, you do need to do a deep dark, look at yourself and go like, what is the stuff that causes me pain in the day? And again, you can make a list of the slide or in a week like, it's particular places I go to for some people, could they place a work, if you go to work and you have a terrible time every day, like some people don't believe they have a choice that they have to go there. But that belief reinforces you stay So if you can recognise like that space is toxic for me, like, for whatever reason it is maybe you stare at a computer for too long, maybe you have people there that don't honour you, you know, there's going to be something there, and you got to make a note of that and go, those are the things that are poisoning me. So you start removing those things, and you can, but it starts by just going, I see them and I want to remove them, then the universe can move to make that happen. But if you're in there, and you're like, this is all at this, there's nothing there's no option. And there's no option. So you know, you literally decide where what direction you'd like to go in.

Nate Maingard 29:35
Yeah. So start with positive reinforcement, make build the arsenal of positive like tools for change. And then once that's, once you get and then self reflection, Where am I now? Where is it working? Where is it not working? And then start removing the things that aren't working? Well, the

Peter Daniel 29:49
same perspective I've always had on food, you know, yeah,

Nate Maingard 29:51
anything I've heard you talk about exactly.

Peter Daniel 29:54
So I'm just adding in the goods as much as you can. That's going to push out there's not much more space in your stomach. Let's Yeah, there's so much more space in your head. If you're doing repetitive statements in your head saying, I'm amazing. I'm amazing. I'm amazing. I know you do that 33 times for 33 days. Like, it's not changing the way you think. Because, you know, it's like those Olympic athletes, they visualise themselves during the race, and they're all hooked up to machines, the machines go, they're running the race, but they're sitting still, your mind is so powerful influence your physiology. So, doing mantras doing meditation, doing positive affirmations, like when you're doing it quite often, particularly if you're in a downstage large wasting my time here and this is never going to work.

Just fake it till you make it just keep at it. Yeah, the stuff does work.

Nate Maingard 30:41
Nice. definitely gonna put all of this in the show notes as well. You have so much good stuff. It's crazy. Yesterday, your tables were full of so many books that I wanted to read. I was like, I don't know I needed like to dedicate six months to just sitting down and getting into all of this stuff. It's so good. But actually that's my that's one of my core challenge. is around knowledge without action and then knowledge with action like this knowledge and wisdom

Peter Daniel 31:05
mentioned that earlier the hippie sits around and is just a stoner all day long

Nate Maingard 31:09
and in my case is I'm not a stoner I don't even have that excuse but I have that challenge

Peter Daniel 31:13
you certainly don't sit around your ass doing nothing

that's just a story that needs to show

positive value to the world positive value to the world. I act with positive value in the world like this.

Nate Maingard 31:29
Like this you

Peter Daniel 31:30
figure it out get the right words linguistically linguistically reprogram your patterning. Yeah, you just do it yourself.

Nate Maingard 31:38
I just have to say for anyone who can't see this right now even though it's we've got a little video going for patrons it's likely the patron exclusive video but right that we basically surrounded by chickens, they're like all there was like a whole stack of them so you can hear them clucking and crying and it's fantastic. It's just this is a farm life farm live hashtag pharma. So I

Peter Daniel 31:59
do stuff I'm This thing I mean, I don't know, maybe it's just a bit of a remnant from my conditioning because, you know, the world kind of tries to force you to do do do all the time. I think there's actually too much to do. Yeah, some will be BB could be amazing to get a sense of balance, you know? Yeah. And for each person that wherever they are in their lives, that's going to be a different state. Sometimes it's all doo doo doo doo. Sometimes it's so vvvv, you know, and I don't think that there's a this way or that way. And I think this is the challenge of our society. It's like conditioning us that it always has to be do do do that. If you're not doing if you're not achieving. And if you're not succeeding, whatever that is, whatever that looks like, then you're a failure. You know, and I think this is a psychic Gremlin from school, really. I mean, that's certainly the schooling system I went through. It's like, if you don't get to this point, you're an absolute failure. And there's going to be some shocking results and and implications and I mean, it's for a kid, like 789 10 I mean, you'd act young. Sheesh, that's deep. I wanted to ask you to do yeah. Exactly, I love to take action, I've kind of corrected my perspective on action. Because if I'm doing stuff I really don't enjoy doing like, clearly I'm not going to enjoy the process I'm not gonna want to do. So you just find things you actually want to do. And so some people that'll just be hobbies initially, if work isn't there for you, but when every day of work is play, you'll never have to work another day because what you do is what inspires you to live and then doing is just, I love to do and boys very good at doing I mean girls too, and it's a different way. So I mean, I'm always running around the farm chopping wood, carrying water, like serving my females, like, you know, just serving the greater female of the world right now.

Nate Maingard 33:38
Yeah, serving the on the masculinity and service

Peter Daniel 33:40
and I've heard you speak about that a lot. Because that's definitely something I feel that you bring you serving people, you know, and that's that's the most rewarding thing there is. And through that you serve yourself. Yeah.

Nate Maingard 33:51
Oh, yeah, totally. It's a this is how there's no the exclusion of like, Oh, it's selfish people do things for others because they want to feel good as well. That's fine. A

Peter Daniel 34:00
distinction there, I think that selfishness is essential for your well being self centeredness puts us straight into ego and makes us think we're more important than anything or anyone else. Very big difference. Yeah, selfish is if I'm breathing the oxygen, then I can pass it to someone else. Like, if I hadn't sold my own shit out of my own head out, how can I ever do it for anyone else, you know, so, be selfish. Be very selfish about your time, about your energy, about the feedback you get from people in the world around you. Like if you're in toxic relationships that aren't serving you get the fuck out. Like you're wasting your life. You know, you can change like you can decide to do something else.

Nate Maingard 34:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm totally I think one of the core challenges I see in the world right now is a focus on fixing the other. As we have built all these even a lot of charities, a lot of the way we've structured the systems is around going out and making it better out there. And then look at the people who are doing those things are often in a state of total disarray exactly as you're saying around, we come into this world and we're actually physically beaten and then

Peter Daniel 35:07
you're a victim and then circumcised

Nate Maingard 35:09
and then it just kind of cut and then it was like well now I'm going to make everyone else better and that'll make me feel better but it doesn't go that way. It's actually that beautiful statement. love thy neighbour as you love yourself and what I think so many people have forgotten or somehow missing that is love you The Love yourself is as critical as the love their neighbour because the one doesn't happen truly without the other then it becomes a it becomes an outpouring of energy that isn't sustainable. And I speak as someone who has in my history being a rescue, I've been the one who wanted to make it better for others so that I could feel better about myself. And it is one of the quickest ways to burn out. I've discovered,

Peter Daniel 35:45
particularly when the other person has expressly asked you for the help. Yeah, I was like, Oh, this person needs my help and you run into rescue them and

I didn't ask you for help energetically or physically. Yeah, it's very tricky.

Nate Maingard 35:58
Yeah, totally. So it is I I think what you're saying is that is one of the core ways that we can each impact that idea of having hope and not feeling like we can change the world or we can improve the state of reality for all of us together is by being selfish is by going into the self and saying, How do I change this in myself? And then and then through that make sense? Like in your case, looking at throwing free super foods and how, how good that is? Actually, that brings me to a question which I wanted to which I've had or I guess thinking of this, I thought of asking it but years ago when I was working briefly in the shop in in Westlake, you know, in the superfoods store, and a woman came in the one day, and she browsed around, and she turned to me and she said, this stuff is too expensive. If it's not for everyone, then it's not for anyone, and it actually stuck with me and that's the truth. So are you and it's okay, that says feel weird, like the White House. And so yeah, I just love to hear you talk.

Peter Daniel 36:59
So, I mean, this is straight into what I was talking about yesterday on the course. You know, it's it's the continuum. And that continuum is very broken right now. Like if you think about what we eating as Palaeolithic hunter gatherers, we were eating super foods all the time, there was nothing but super totally superfoods. Everyone was having it all the time, and it was totally free. You didn't have to pay cents. Now, obviously, over the last 12,000 years since farming was invented, that's changed, because suddenly, some guys growing more food than other guys. You can store it, he can hold it, he can sell its ownership, ownership of all sorts of crazy stuff starts happening there. But in you know, that's now led to the industrial and agricultural revolution we've seen in the last 6070 years through chemicals, where you've got massive, massive companies, basically companies that control the chemical lines, you know, whether it's through medicine or through farming, like just producing stuff at such low quality, so cheaply that people have this illusion that food is cheap. If you've ever had a vegetable garden, and put Your own energy into trying to grow all your own food, you'll know that food is not cheap in there, you know, food is efforts, its work and it's the most rewarding thing ever. So in our world today to put a value on someone growing food properly, you know, growing food without damaging our environment with pesticides and herbicides and PR farming practices, you know, that costs money. So it's, it's an environmental payback, you pay for food that is not damaged, that's insane. It's like the stuff that is not damaging the environment, the certified organic stuff, the locally grown stuff, the stuff that only grows in certain ecosystems that can't be grown anywhere else, you know, that kind of stuff should be the government should be paying us to eat. Yeah, subsidising that instead of genetically modified corn. Yeah. So I know there's a very skewed experience of value in the food chain in today's world. So I mean, I would love to make super foods available to everyone for free. Yeah, but for us to exist as a business like we need certain profit margins and that's not a margin. Really at the moment, I mean, you know,

trailblazing with

technology that has damaged like plastic, you know, I'm like, I hate putting plastic in packaging, I'd look at what's happening in the ocean. So we went to compostable packaging, which costs literally 10 times more, and we just suck it up. Because to me, it's my, my conscience, like, what world am I leaving to people to? You know, all the stuff does cost money, so yeah, realigning our idea of value to food, I think starts with growing your own food. For me, this is where everyone takes back their power, you know, right now, your life depends on the petrol chain. That's what it depends on the moment the petrol don't flow. That's it, you're starving within days. And then what happens to the streets? You know, it's very, very risky world we're in and it was our petrol flow. Come on, I can never break. Okay, well, there's lots of things in that chain that can break you know, so maybe get a little bit more comfortable in the fact that you can keep yourself alive regardless of Some big corporation and what they're up to. So that starts with food at home.

Nate Maingard 40:05
Yeah, I mean, so the thing. The thing that I did think went

Peter Daniel 40:10
on to question there was another point

Nate Maingard 40:13
that there is there's another point within it, which is around that we've built a world where some people can afford to be healthy. Definitely. And that's the part but my, the thought that I had around this, and I'm sure you have more on that, but as it is also that those who can afford to be well, if they choose to be well, that gives them more of a capacity to support others and being well I mean, I've seen that in your business actually, like seeing a lot of the stuff you've taken such good care of, where we live in a country where there's this huge divide between the haves and the have nots. And actually we live in a world where that there is that but it's been hidden better in some countries and it's kind of like you don't see it as much. But in your case, like your, your the people who work with you and for you I'm so well taken care of that you've made uplift an entire community through you uplifting yourselves. And so anyway, I think I've kind of answered the question myself. That

Peter Daniel 41:07
is another thing that just occurred to me around that is that, you know, the idea that people are forced or unless you're wealthy, you can't be healthy. I mean, I think that's also a fallacy. There are people who live, you know, below a certain level of wealth around the world, indigenous cultures who have an incredible level of health. And they don't spending money on it, you know, right. That's why I said grow your own food, you can grow your own food, a medicine that is amazingly healthy for you, you can be totally healthy. Chips as in like packets of potato chips. It's one of the most expensive things on the planet. If you consider the cost of potato, just simple economics, like how cheap that potato is slicing it up frying up and cheap oil putting in a bag that weighs almost nothing, you know, but then if you think about the nutrient deficiency there, that's Empty calorie carbohydrate, the way potatoes are grown today, there's very little nutritional value in a whole lot of starch and carbs, which is going to damage your health long term. So it's a completely nutrient deficient food. So its intrinsic value is already radically reduced. And then it's cheap to make and then people buy that with money. You know, I remember I once had a guy, we actually were doing a course in Durban. And someone asked a similar question. They were like, so, you know, this is all great, but like, how is someone you know, down here in like, the informal settlements gonna afford to buy, you know, one of these bags, goji berries, and this guy put his hand in the audience. He's like, Well, actually, you know, I have a gardening job. I can only get a few thousand Rand a month. Yeah. And I choose not to buy chips, and coke and sweets and all that kind of crap. And I've more than enough money to buy two or three boxes of some kind of mix, which is giving my family a support in nutrition. That other stuff is just damaging. Like for anyone. It's a choice. That's where there's a world where there is a way and your means always there. Yeah,

Nate Maingard 43:05
I love that's such a beautiful story, and it's so inspiring this idea of disempowerment based on material quantity, so like, Oh, well, if you don't have much materials, then you can't make good choices.

Peter Daniel 43:18
And I see it in South Africa. Yeah, I mean, we've had this, like, the people in the sky are living, you know, in, in a continuum, maybe hundreds, if not thousands of years old, where they know what to eat. They know what to grow their harmony with environments as a community up there. So Africa generally, okay, like the move from rural into cities. Yeah. Because there's this lower of the cities, the glamour, the potential for earning money, and then you get there and it's like, it's a story. And it's a story not based on reality, because where you came from, it's way better. You know? Yes, you're toiling the soil all day and eating but the happiness level is much, much higher, much higher than normal. Does value have so many people believe that like having a certain lifestyle is necessary to be happy, whatever that is for them. And if they actually just stripped it out and, and looked at what actually brought them a huge amount of joy, you probably find a simple things, most profound things. Like walking down having a swim in a river, you know, spending an afternoon under a shaded tree with your loved ones having a picnic, like, sure. But it was time for that, you know, when you're in the city and you got to pay rent, and you got to pay for your transport. And you got to pay for your other balls, you know, and you got to graph to do it. And one of the things we found moving out here is our expenses monthly halved immediately. It's just so much cheaper to live in the countryside. It's amazing. You just reduce your overheads.

Nate Maingard 44:42
Yeah, I suppose the fact because there's the internet now enables you to run a business. That's I mean, I know you come into Cape Town Rick regularly store and all that kind of stuff. But it's it's like you were saying yesterday don't throw the baby out with the bathwater like we have created. We have these as you kept saying big brains. I love that we've got these big brains, we can come up with solutions. But when we can come up with much better solutions than the ones that we've currently all collectively chosen, absolutely. And it's happening, like we have the answers, this is amazing thing. You spend enough time in like the alternative world of technology and thinking,

Peter Daniel 45:14
you know, not as kind of out the box thinking of what's possible. And there's some extremely clever people out there thinking about this stuff, and putting videos on YouTube and sharing their knowledge. And it's just simply a matter of critical mass until people with enough money start going, we got to make this happen, you know, because we have the skills we have the people we have the tech, you know, right down unfortunately, just industry is too invested in the old dirty way of doing things. And at some point, even industrial realise that it is killing itself through killing its resources. You know, it's fine. It's absolutely finite. Totally. So it's short term thinking versus long term thinking. indigenous cultures are going seven generations down the line. What is that going to be like? I have influence over that. You know, today's fast paced Western world Like, the next few days, you know, that's all I'm thinking about where I get my next hit. Totally,

Nate Maingard 46:06
totally. Well, do you are you willing to talk about the setting this up now? Well, no, just the thing you were talking about yesterday with the the blockchain. I don't know if that's ready to be spoken about. Yeah, just because I because what you're saying now is basically something I've struggled with for such a long time I look at it's how we built our world, it was the most destructive aspect of the way the western mind thinks about the world is just this. It taking taking taking Oh, if we just keep taking and accumulating, it'll be fine. We can just do we like infinite economic growth. And every business or a company or a country has to be successful by growing year over year over year. That's how you be successful, but it's a finite planet with finite resources. And we're devouring them at a rate that is so too so beyond unsustainable. And so yesterday, you're

Peter Daniel 46:54
actually growing. It's a false growth, right. What are you guys utilising your resources to grow? So at some point, they won't be enough resources to sustain your growth and then you have

Nate Maingard 47:04
a crash. It's exactly like the short term you thinking right now Oh, I have this nice feeling of like things are getting bigger. But then in the long term, how my grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren going to be feeling about what I'm doing right now. Exactly the choices I've made. I love that so much. And so yesterday you were talking about something that just made immediate sense to me, which was around blockchain and currency and how fiat currency is based on a an illusion right now, it's not connected to anything of actual value. Like, if anyone listening doesn't know this, in the simplest terms, I notice it is that what we use as money and we spend and say dollars, most of you are in the US, I think your dollars used to be connected, at least to gold when was like we have this amount of gold in the bank. Therefore we have this amount of currency available that people can take these notes, which is basically an IOU and if you take that note back and say it to the bank, I want the gold that this note is worth and they would give you that gold that broke a long time ago and now there's just lots of paper which does of any value attached to it. And that's happening with now with blockchain and all these different currencies. And so you have something yesterday that you mentioned, which was a way of creating value, a value connected to blockchain. So please tell us about that because I yeah,

Peter Daniel 48:13
yeah, I think again, just to get our heads in a positive alignment with what is I think if we judge too harshly the world that we've inherited, we kind of limit ourselves from seeing a greater vision because in a space of judgement in a space of anger, you know, there's a lot you could be angry about, you know, but if you think about currency, like unless there is a medium of exchange between people, like what do you then have, you know, there's potential for anarchy there. So the system that is has gotten us to this place, and the system will be transcended when enough people recognise the new system is more effective, and embrace it. So you know, the current fear of fiat currencies around the world they create on a date to begin with, so a central bank of some kind, Prince money Then charges the government for printing that money in debt as a percentage attached to it. So the money is devalued at creation. And then as it goes down the chain, you know, from government to bank, to bank to bank to person is always a bit of debt attached to that process to eventually, like, it was the fractional reserve system, you're gonna get to it. We're not gonna get this dance all the way through. So there's always this death can never be repaid. It's impossible. You know, and usually, it just means that people who have less money, just the money gets sucked into the system. So the higher players who are charging the initial debts, so it's a drain of resources. trickle down

Nate Maingard 49:39
trickle up.

Peter Daniel 49:40
Yeah, exactly. So that and it's clever system. I mean, they set it up that way. I mean, it's Yeah, it's clearly working for them.

But you know, what I love about blockchain is decentralised, no one's controlling it. So it's out there, you know, and it's not created out of date. Initially, you know, there's an IPO to maybe launch shirts which pays for the tech to put it together. And get it out there. But then that's it, you know, there's no debt, there's just tokens. It's digital, it's distributed, like you're not paying monthly for a server. It just it has a life of its own distributed across the network. So in that sense, at least there isn't this debt that has to be repaid on it's more like a value value. This is the value. There's not there's not a hidden debts. And obviously, it's also very efficient technologically, because you're not having to cut down trees, turn them into paper, put a whole bunch of chemicals in the paper and make bowls or coins for that matter. I mean, it's it's subtle, you know, and I love that about it. Because I think fundamentally, energy exchange at its highest level is energy exchange, sharing energy, taking it from the world, sharing it with people. So it's extremely subtle. So blockchain is kind of reflecting for me that that higher experience and understanding of what energy is in our world. Anyway, so getting back to the point so Now we've got blockchain. But blockchain is also not backed by anything of actual value. You know, it's just an agreement that says, this has certain value and agreement is based on enough people saying it doesn't paying that value for it. And that's where speculation comes in. You know, if enough people say it's not worth less than Sunday, there's a drop in price. So you've seen this with Bitcoin rises and crashes, rising crashes. I mean, this is how the stock exchange works, people betting it's just a big betting game. And that's how most, you know, companies, they make their money. So how do we move out of a way of valuing things that is intrinsically not valuable? Like this? There's nothing of actual value.

Nate Maingard 51:38
And just opinion

Peter Daniel 51:39
Yeah, and its creation, in order to support financial institutions and industries is destructive to the environment like it's fundamentally disrupted. So I just had an epiphany will actually spend some time with john D. Lu, who's an incredible environmentalist, amazing work around the world reforesting projects, looking at those photos you showed us Yes.

Nate Maingard 52:00
Today I'll put them in the show notes as always unbelievable what they did.

Peter Daniel 52:04
And, I mean, they lose project, lose plateau projects, you know, over 10 years reforesting a huge 35,000 kilometres. Just amazing to see what people can do when they decide, you know, let's make a difference. So I was deeply inspired by him. We can talk about him for ages, but I want to stay on track with Krista. But one of the challenges of course, is funding things like reforestation projects like where's the money coming from how we paying for it. Even the UN realises the decade now of reforestation and restore restoration of ecosystems, ecosystem destruction is one of the biggest causes of destruction, our environment literally destroying the environment, you kill the trees, they make the air nice, it kind of sucks without the trees, you know. So I called it Lorax the concept because I read lorex to the lifted Lorax to Qatar, it's one of my favourite books and it's such a profound it always brings a tear out to me, it's like so now you know, brilliantly written So total if value is really disagreement, you know so particular on the blockchain like it's just agreeing that this Bitcoin thing has this value, you know and with your country little different the agreement is backed by guns. So if you don't agree to this value well then we have guys with guns will tell you that you really should a little bit more rough. Yeah. But how do we actually make a currency or monetary system that is backed by something of real value? And I just you know, how did you spend all this time with us tightenin reforestation and recognised like ecosystems, that's the most valuable thing on the earth. Literally, it is life. If you want life, to have more life, you need to not damage the life. So if you look at the planet ecosystem destruction, I mean, that's destroying the value of the planet fundamentally, the value here is tree, its biomass. The amount of biomass and environment is the life of that environment. So you take away the biomass you have it is it's I mean, even deserts have some level of biomass that has life supporting it. summit. Yeah, exactly in areas that should have been like rain for, like even my family, that's beautiful. But this is 30 damage landscape. You know, this is pine trees and Australian wattle trees. And, you know, I'm starting to plant indigenous stuff again. But yeah, it's a different ecosystem to what it was in. I mean, it's huge fire come three months ago, it almost destroyed the whole thing. And we have 40 metre high flames going to the pine trees. So that's the result of monocropping you know, destroying ecosystems to have one thing, but the indigenous forest didn't burn it's resilient to the fire. So when you look at fires world, I mean, Amazon was just parts of it were burning. You look into that, you know, they're cutting and clearing and burning. So it's damaging that ecosystem allowing fire to be in the edge never be able to be in there should be more than enough. So if we can recognise that ecosystems, biomass and ecosystems, the most valuable thing there is, you make an agreement. Now the way you account for the agreement, you can use the blockchain because that's basically your life. China's its agreements lay down over and over and over again, that can be tracked. So if enough people agree that biomass and ecosystems The most important thing, then it's agreed and we just ratify that in the blockchain. So we create a crypto coin Kaduna theory, MCTC, cr 20. coin. And you can go the value of this coin is linked to biomass. That's all you can't speculate on it. You can't like sell high, sell low whatever people do in those worlds. Yeah, it's, it's linked. So the way I thought you could do this is you do a pilot project. And this doesn't even have to be physically I mean, we can crunch the numbers on this. I mean, this is these are kind of things I'm thinking of now got a few people I'm speaking to my technical people. So we crunch the numbers you do a project you go up as a degraded area. We're going to plant trees in this area, the trees have this much cost we're going to monitor the growth of the trees over time, the amount of water in the soil which increases when ecosystems are restored amount of bacteria in the soil, because obviously bacteria thrive in a positive ecosystem, even mycelium Tree mass leaf mulch layers. There's a lot of metrics temperature, this is all measurable stuff. Yeah. So you can have an audit once a year independently done by multiple different companies to come in and measure the biomass growth and they go, okay, it's growing by 20% by 30% by 500%. And then that goes to the crypto goes up by this much. And boom, it goes up in value. And then every year, they measure it and guess what happens? Shit grows, you plant a tree, you look after a little bit, it grows particular environment it's meant to grow. And then the coin which is linked to its growth goes up every year. So it's the most stable currency in the world because it's linked to ecosystem restoration and nature's natural cycles, which is growth.

Nate Maingard 56:45
And so it's actually linked to making life better for everything that lives on the planet. Exactly, which is pretty rad.

Peter Daniel 56:51
Using the crypto buying the crypto means that you have an environmental conscious because you directly supporting the reforestation of the planet. Because it's decentralised it doesn't have to be managed in any one location anyone in the world can do it is a template. It's like God, the coin is distributed worldwide. You know the framework is there. I mean, I say today

Nate Maingard 57:14
I just had an idea yeah, but it's a great

Peter Daniel 57:16
idea I hope like a dozen other people have had the same idea already on a farther ahead than I am in the development I was one of the things I found in the world like I'll take action on stuff I realised no one else is doing anything and I feel that it's something that could really benefit people. But I'm really excited when I think I have great idea and then I find out someone else's already like five years down the track on the summer.

Nate Maingard 57:36
Yeah, right. So if anyone has heard of anything like this, I certainly haven't and but if anyone has, please do let us know. And

Peter Daniel 57:44
what makes it so obvious to me is that if you run down the like, Okay, how would it actually work practically? You know, you like I have a neighbour for example. So I had this idea we could do a couple of thousand Hector's reforestation corridor here extending the noise in the forest since pilot project to test it. So go to him. My neighbour, I'm like, well, you got land, it's pretty degraded, it's full of alien invasive trees will come and will, we will lease your land, we're just going to plant trees on your land will clean up the old rubbish stuff will plant trees will own those trees, you own your land. But we're going to give you some of this coin, you know, to say thank you for letting these trees the planet and guess what the coin value is going to go up every year that you don't mess with the trees. Soon as you cut the trees down your your money is less valuable. Yes, she's gonna be so amped to go in there and like chop your trees down. And you can do this with anyone. I mean, just do with governments, you know, I will take this area of your land which is degraded and damaged and will turn it back into its natural states. And we'll give you some coin for it. And then and then your coin will go up in value. Right now you just have to spend money on this property. Yeah, you know, you got to corporations. You say if you buy these coins with fear, you're in a sense burning your fear converted into, like, a environmental conscience. Yeah. And then it's supporting what is happening here. I mean she I can see it running pretty quick once it gets I love the idea

Nate Maingard 59:04
I don't know enough to know like

Peter Daniel 59:06
the technical challenges I mean I'm sure there's gonna be plenty of those yes

Nate Maingard 59:11
but on a straight up like hits me in the right places kind of feeling like as soon as you said it yesterday yes this is a this is a something to be feel hopeful about and the

Peter Daniel 59:20
like, but this is happening people are thinking about stuff like this around the world. Yeah, like and taking action on it. It was the other thing it's like I just get a good idea and then sit on it because then you get ideas not gonna come to you so much anymore. I people like how do you become more creative in life and like to take action on the creative urges you given? So when life gives you a desire, when it gives you a direction something you're you're inspired by something that you think could really be good? And then you just go but I can't because I'm not good enough because I don't have enough money because I don't have enough time because I'll be up job job job. Shame, shame, and then we'll discuss will find some One Else totally to inspire,

Nate Maingard 1:00:02
which is also kind of reassuring. Actually, I want to continue this, but let's just take a pause while I change your battery and something Okey dokey. Nice. And now I forgotten what we were talking about just before

Peter Daniel 1:00:13
you coin green coin Lorax

Nate Maingard 1:00:16
Yeah, it was after we had just we were just moving into a new thing. We need to do a pattern interrupt.

Peter Daniel 1:00:24
Yeah, let's go there because it's interesting. You're looking for your battery. And the story in your head is that you're stupid basically, because you've lost your battery, right? I mean, you might not have it like that blatant in your mind. The energy is all about like in the longer it takes to find that the worst it's going to get to the venture like Ah, so how do you interrupt that pattern because that's the pattern in our lives. It plays just not running, running, running. So in NLP, you call it a pattern interrupt, you're going to just grab someone's hand and shift their state and put them into meditation. And then they're open to something else so you can do it yourself. So you went early on. We will take the iPad interrupted you earlier. Yeah. So you were looking for something else. And I said, How interesting would it be? If you were trying to remember where you put something and you tried so hard that the memory that came to you is where you buried a whole bunch of gold in your last lifetime? Yeah, you know, and you actually went there and it was there. So totally out there thought yeah. But it interrupts that

Nate Maingard 1:01:23
pattern. Because the idea and the pattern is I can't find this thing. Exactly.

Peter Daniel 1:01:28
Yeah, so not only did I find it but it's like millions of dollars buried in the ground it's it's something like far out Yeah, you know, someone's in front of you and they're like crying and they're so sad and you're like wow you shoes a very strange Where did you get them from right and then you go straight back to them you know? There's a moment there of like Hannah moments you supposed to be here with me with my thing? Yeah, like and I'm talking about people in a poor me states. Obviously, if someone's had some trauma and they really grieving you know, yeah, playback. When it's a negative fat. You can interrupted with the most interesting thing.

Nate Maingard 1:02:00
That just happened. Now, as you said, I did it to myself because I was looking for the battery. And then I went back to the I was like, oh, now I'm going to remember about the gold and then immediately as I know the vetches

Peter Daniel 1:02:10
so the list is your pattern interrupt, right, that's what those things are. So you write the lists of things that make you feel good because they interrupt the pattern of you feeling bad.

Nate Maingard 1:02:20
Very cool. Very cool, man. Okay, so we've done the green coin thing and I saw hope like I will definitely be supporting that if and when it happens a while when it happens. Because I do think if you don't do it, I'm I know the idea is now rolling. Oh, that was what I was gonna say is around ideas that actually, I love Elizabeth Gilbert. I don't know if you've heard book, Eat, Pray Love, which was an enjoyable book. I really liked it. It has a lovely story, but more her as a person as a she's just fantastic. She's done a really cool TED talks and podcasts and things and I was listening to her on a podcast and she was saying how she really believes in magic and she thinks of it ideas as as actual entities in a sense, that kind of float around. And so she is a writer, she has ideas and they come through. And she said the relief for her has been to feel okay that sometimes She's literally too busy. She's like, already on something and then an idea will come and she'll just say, no, not for me. But then like, and she'll let it go. And she but it's the feeling of knowing because she literally had an experience you described, where she let an idea go once and then a week or two months later friend, someone she knew, wrote the exact same thing that that idea had come and she was like, Oh my gosh, it just went on to the next person. And it says it's kind of takes the pressure off. I know for myself at times where I feel like that and she looked at touch, and she touched the frame.

Peter Daniel 1:03:41

Nate Maingard 1:03:44
she jumps I'll look into it and put it in the show notes because it's pretty frickin cool. Like and I just love because you were kind of saying like these ideas, how to be more creative as take action on the ideas which actually connected with something. There is an idea that has been calling me for a long time and I've been I want to listen to it and take that action. And they don't

Peter Daniel 1:04:03
have to be huge things like the hotter it is. Yeah, it's not a massive all things can you get, you know, on in the day that inspire you. It could be playing a game of ping pong, which you can do after this. Yeah, that sounds great.

Nate Maingard 1:04:14
Let's get this done. Gosh, I'm so excited to do this with you. It's been it's been a long time are we wanting to and I feel that's the plan. And it's the perfect time now. And actually, one of the big things I really did want to cover with you, because I because I so admire, how courageous you're being about it. And so your, your whole business is, is a plant based business. That's how you built it. It's raw foods, it's super foods, it's their plants. There's no animal products in there. And when I first met you That was your whole philosophy based on what you knew then that was the experiment that you were involved in. And as you would say, on your courses, like I'm doing this experiment, I'm experimenting with myself consistently, to find ways to be better with more Well healthier, like, how can I really align? And then what's happened in more recently. And you know, the thing is like you're one of the people one of the maybe four or five people I would go to respect most around diet and lifestyle in the world I have anyone I've ever met. And every single one of those people was at some point, very fully 100% plant based vegan and every single one of those people who and I'm saying this because I want to make the point of these are not just your average Joe, who's just like, Oh, I just feel like eating this or I just feel like eating out you guys like makes you dedicate your entire lives to it. Every one of you has reintroduced animal products into your diet over the last few years. And so I first of all want to thank you for being courageous enough to actually talk about it when your entire business runs on. Currently, it's a plant based business. And you talked you spoke very candidly about it yesterday. I've heard you speak about it on on podcast before on a podcast before And so yeah, I suppose in whatever way you'd like to just kind of share that process from that hundred percent vegan totally committed to now responsibly including animal products, why and what? Yeah, that's for

Peter Daniel 1:06:11
sure. I mentioned the continuum concept earlier, you know, based on a book by john Lee luf called the continuum concept and if we look at our history is hominids and moving on planet for a long time in this kind of form. And we've been eating a certain way for that time. Quite often, it's like paleo is a word to describe it, it's but quite often, that's also just an excuse to eat only meat. Our ancestors quite likely a lots of plants and lots of animal foods. 5050 ish, you know, maybe 6040 in one direction in some 6040 and another but basically your hunter gathering you moving around and gathering, and both are important vegetables have amazing nutrients. And animal foods have amazing nutrients. Now, because our continuum as Westerners and as a modern world What's been broken like most animals, no one's eat in a particular wild animals humans, like I've been doing food courses for years, no idea what to eat. And if you walk into the average supermarket and you think like, Oh, this is food, I know that most of the stuff in that store is not food at all, like a massive percentage of what people eat in the world. I wouldn't even plusses food, you know, it's heavily processed. It's got chemicals added to its it's had chemicals sprayed on him and I can carry on for hours on the crap that gets added to, to basically what people think is food. Yeah. And then we don't even go into how it's grown and damage the environment in that way. So, you know, we're trying to find out what is the best diet for humans. But if we look at what humans are eating, most of it is terrible is nothing close to good. So I went from a sad diet, you know, eating lots of sugar, being pretty much like not being able to hold a spoon without shaking my me like my sugar system was completely shot was probably pre diabetic. But I'd like 19 2021 I wasn't testing myself. I just thought like, whatever. This is live. Yeah. And then I discovered super foods and then discovered raw foods and I went on a raw food cleanse and detox and I felt unbelievably good. And it motivated me so much that I just charged on with it. And I just felt better. I mean, the first year, I tried to create for businesses, and you sleep a few hours a night, like indestructible from colds and flus. And for years that persisted, you know, and now I understand is known as the honeymoon effect because when you're on a terrible diets, and you improve that diets, you're going to feel much better when you take out all the toxic chemical, highly processed, damaged foods, you're going to feel much better whether you move to eating only celery can maybe not just only celery, eating only plant foods or more vegetarian based or even more on number of space and that's the interesting about it. For me Initially, it was like The reason I'm feeling better is because I'm now only eating raw plant foods. I didn't at that point, consider the reason I'm feeling better is I'm not eating all the crap I used to be eating that isn't even food. How

Nate Maingard 1:09:12
can I so this is such a To me, this is one of the most critical things that is missed by so many people who are trying to improve their diet. And I've started I just want to make a point to anyone listening, please pay deep attention to this point. If you move your diet if you're currently on what is called the sad standard American diet, which is basically processed food, it is stuff that isn't actually food, we call it food, but it's not. It's stuff that's processed dnh and taken out of its natural form. If you're eating that food and you move to any kind of a whole food diet, whether that's home meats or whole plants or a mix of the two, you are going to experience a huge positive shift in your well being and that to me is just it's just what it was, but it's just so critical. I really want people to get that. So don't just don't don't lump it all in that thing of going, Oh, well, as Peter says like it must be it must be just That I'm eating just plant foods that that's doing it when it was actually I've just stopped eating so much shit. I'm just eating whole foods that they happen to be plants right now. Okay, continue. Thank you.

Peter Daniel 1:10:11
Yeah, I mean, that was my feeling around it. And then I started doing a bit of research and digging, and I read some amazing books on the topic, because like you say, there are a lot of people in the world who I deeply respect, who are nutritionists and have been, you know, either all vegan or both. And who just got to a point where they realise they couldn't continue, they couldn't maintain and sustain it. And but there are a few people that seem to be sustaining and maintaining its long term. And so the other thing I realised there is biochemical individuality, like some things are going to work better for some people. And you need to find out what that is for you. You can't like believe that the way someone else is doing something is going to work for you. And it might work for you for a few months, a few years, maybe even a few decades, but changes the only constant so if change comes from either the fear of always had with ideology is that ideology doesn't take into account reality, there are two different things and ideology is I have a story about how I believe the world is. And that is the story, I'm going to believe regardless of what the world is actually showing me. So, whenever people are in a position where they feel righteous enough to inflict harm on other humans, because they think their belief is more important, sacred, whatever it is, like willing to actually inflict harm on someone else, someone else who isn't harming them, you know, it's very scary for me. So I've, you know, even through my, my I was raw vegan for seven years, hundred percent. I mean, I did it as full on as I could imagine, I mean, I have a super foods company, I was eating super foods every single day and huge amounts. And I think that's why I managed to stick out that long. If you look at the statistics, most vegans vegetarians drop it within a year, many within three months. You know it that's just because they moving from a crappy sad diet to a crappy vegan diet, which is also saying You know, if you just drop animal foods and you keep eating potato chips or processed cornflakes and rubbish like that, like you're going to, you're going to feel better initially, maybe just because it's maybe a little bit cleaner up because animal foods can concentrate toxicity from the environment more than plants, they're just higher up on the food chain. So if you have a future like a cow, and you've been concentrating like, higher, you know, GMO corn and toxins and pesticides and poisoned environments, like you're going to eat that food and you're going to get sick. And these the plants, they're not much better out of that. Exactly. So when you move towards actually eating real food, that's where you get that benefit. That's where you feel amazing.

Nate Maingard 1:12:41
And so for you, you so you did this you did seven years raw vegan and and I know personally having observed and just knowing you, you did it at the absolute highest standard that you could, and it didn't work for you and as you say that that could have to do as much was your bio bio chemical.

Peter Daniel 1:12:56
Yeah, the number of ways you can look at and this is one of the exciting things is biochemical, biochemical individuation you can look at DNA, there's certain DNA tests you can do that gives you an indication of what it is what kind of diet what kind of mix of macronutrients really protein, fat and carbs which is all a diet is what this food is food like whether you getting like wild harvested game as your animal food source, whether you've got chickens or whether you're growing your own vegetables getting from an organic farmers market, like that's real food you like probably grown, and we get into it later. But yes, you can farm even beef in a carbon sink fashion, sequestering carbon, right, you know, livestock longshadow. And that whole story, those numbers are skewed. So when you look at the actual and I believe like the numbers on the newspaper headlines for years, right, I mean, this is the other thing, quite often it just like she's this seemed like a credible source. Totally, you know, yeah. And then when you actually look into it more carefully ago, people cherry pick data all the time, you know, it's bias confirmation. Like I want to confirm what I believe so I pick on the bits of info in my world, that's what I mean this Is what Google does. This is what the search analytics are all about. They reflect the human mind it's so interesting. Yeah, they are giving you content because you like that content. You don't see anything else you search for whatever word you search for on Google knows what your search preferences are. So if you searching for like vegetables, gives you all the vegetarian vegan stuff, it's all coming away. You know, if you search for stay, you can get all the animal prostaff diets all coming away.

Nate Maingard 1:14:28
The intense mine, actually this is like oh, we haven't we I think we should actually do I had this thought early and I'm thinking it again, is we should we should do like a little series like the Peter and eight series because because I just we've already touched on like 15 things that I would want to just spend an hour and a half talking about just each of those things. It's amazing but but just a brief aside because I do want to get back to the the story of Dyson and how you've shifted in the direction of that. But, but one of the things I've noticed with Google is because vaccinations are such a there Considered by the mainstream out there to just be a just an unanswered question. Yeah, vaccines are great and everyone should have them and that's it. No one needs to question that when an actual fact there is a huge portion of the population, myself included yourself included who have very firm questions and doubts and and opposing facts and ideas about it. And I don't think that we're fucking idiots like we're not equal and anti vaxxer exact, which is that's the thing. It's so lovely, like terrorism, give it a big scary name and make it Yeah, but it's not about that. And it's the way it's like to consider that everyone who's making the decisions and making the world and making them because they think they're good decision. They're trying to make good decisions. And so I say that to people who are fully 100% behind vaccines, I know that they're trying to do what they think is the best thing that they can do. If they could acknowledge that about us or me as well. We getting wind and wind microphones anyway but what one of the things Google i think is started doing and Facebook as well as if people search for stuff about vaccinations, they'll put up information. That's all That's like pro vaccinations. And they'll say even if the article you're looking at is maybe anti, or it's questioning, and they will show something else saying, oh, but you know, make sure you read this stuff. That's like the official thing. Absolutely. And that kind of stuff that's just beyond even. That's just making you We need you to think this specific thing, no matter what you're trying to think I should scary, but let's let's not get sidetracked by this, because I do want to hear your food story. So. So another question I have about it is, which ties into your story is, how would someone like me? Are they simple ways that that I could find out and test along my own experimental journey? Where do I fall on that spectrum? Are there simple ways to Can I like give that information to people? Because that's what's confusing because of some of the stuff so for example, with veganism, like be 12 does the one that everyone knows about the really bad results only happen 2030 years down the line, but by then it's so very bad. So I want to know like now,

Peter Daniel 1:17:03
well, that was part of my my realisation because, you know, I was quite conscientious of my experiments, I was doing blood tests every few years checking those markers that I knew could be an issue from vitamins, minerals, b, 12, zinc, iron, calcium, you know, that kind of stuff. And looking at them. Testing is expensive, unfortunately. So, you know, it's, it's not a cheap thing at the moment. I mean, it's getting better and tests are improving. So for me, I didn't have an Amiga three test available, I would have loved to have checked that too, because dhk is often the Amiga three that your brain users that can be deficient and actually, as research studies have shown, like 60% deficiency in vegans, so it's, you know, it's a high deficiency point. But basically, so I I recognise my body as the experimental vehicle. So one of the things that's amazing about a raw food diet is it actually makes you really clean and sensitive. So you can find us one of the things I loved initially about it is if I ate dodgy food, like, I'd feel it straightaway and some people like that's hugely limiting. You can't go to a restaurant and eat something because you feel ill I'm like you're feeling ill because it's not food and you should be feeling ill so you want to suppress that so you can eat stuff that isn't that's what people are dealing with the whole time. And so when you think of depression, immune system depression this is all just depressing your system with stuff that it's not meant to eat makes you feel ill you ignore it and then it just goes quiet on you. So I love that about the raw vegan diet it got me to that point of cleansed space of being so cleanse that I could feel in myself if something was working for me or not. And I believe that everyone has that capacity and sending on a special thing it's just that you need to uncover it again. Right You know, you need to honour it again. Because you know, if you if your system keeps asking you for something and you keep ignoring it, eventually you just ignore it. Okay, so this is also one of the issues because Sunday when I started not feeling so good and I suddenly started getting colds and flus again and low energy and low libido and lowest lead performance. This is very side up the plant protein powders and I'm Dale to be 12 patches and sublingual tablets and, you know, I'd push the supplements even harder and then I just had an epiphany one day I think on a mountain where I just realised what the hell am I doing? Like, I'm basically buying pills and potions from companies and corporations around the world he must have well, like my whole thing is food. Like, you need to change your diets to eat well. So if my diets isn't giving me everything, I need somebody on the diet. Like I'm, I can't be beholden on an industry to keep me healthy. That's entirely out of context with our continuum as hunter gatherers for millions of years. Like your environment supports you, your world supports you the earth supports you now Now we believe that no doesn't actually we have to, we have to support a book by john Corporation, so you give your power away to them, because you can't stay healthy without their existence. Like unless there's an antibiotic around like, Oh my god, you could die end like A lot of people could because their immunity is so low and the resistance is so low and herbalism Misato fashion, you know pasta herbalist would come to you and all those medicines are in those Herbes pharmaceuticals are just extracts of those concentrates of those and chemical versions of those herbalists were profoundly effective at dealing with any kind of thing like that. So I could feel my system that I needed something else and it was interesting is about the same time as we had our first child guitarra. So obviously, she was we were vegan, she was vegan, except for the breast milk, which is technically not vegan, which I've always found a little bit interesting and strange.

Nate Maingard 1:20:35
Is there anyone who really argues that point like is there anyone out there who guys you shouldn't drink?

Peter Daniel 1:20:45
soy formula Dude, you don't need breast milk so it's crazy. People leave very weird stuff. Anyway, like soy is another point. So for me to like get stacks of protein I'd have to be buying like tofu from some big soy produce likely Jenny medically modified. I mean, you can go to ganic, of course. But still, I'm like, when I moved, it was two things moving on to my farm. And being here in nature and going, I want to support myself with my own food and not rely on the big corporates in a city in a way of doing things. And then obviously planting a lot of greens and a lot of vegetables and a lot of fruits. But also recognising that I can't just survive on those like, I can't get my my even just my protein levels met on stuff I grow myself. So if I was to be sustainable here on my farm, like how would I do that? Like I could potentially grow a couple of hectares of cannabis, and then use the hemp seeds from that for protein and that would go a long way in helping me but it's illegal for me to grow. You know where I am, so I can't really do that. So I really thought deeply about how I could sustain my life where I was in my environments. And then I just got into looking at my child and going obviously, like, my child is like if I did any damage to her, so I just making very sure like she doesn't want to take be 12 tablets. She doesn't want to take supplemental pulls, she doesn't want to have a beat off patch stuck on her. So I'm like, so what do I feed her to make sure she gets enough of the nutrients she needs, you know, she's not going to be able to supplement in that. And then I will say that a lot of research through birth and pregnancy on childhood nutrition and what they need, and the mother's nutrition and there's a major major draw on the pregnant woman to produce a no whole new being major, major jewel. So a lot of vegan vegetarians also kind of fall off the bus at that point because they just can't maintain. You know, miscarriages are common, unfortunately. Because if you just got not getting enough nutritional density, and you know, corn just isn't nutritionally dense enough, if a vegans trying to survive on that.

So I looked at the research more deeply again, you know, like, what is it actually saying what are the deficiencies let's look at B 12. And they're realising Okay, wow, like, stuff's coming out. Now that saying like, people are very deficient, and why is it taking so long so it would be 12 if you test your serum, your Blood for be 12 for to show that it's low, you've been on the deficiency path for 20 to 30 years. It takes a long time for your serum be 12 to be low enough to flag and the now artists that pick it up way earlier, homocysteine is one of them. And transcode elements something rather I forget the technical name. That's the best one apparently at the moment. I don't even know how it works. But homocysteine is an indicator of, of cardiovascular health basically, it's an inflammatory chemical molecule in your blood that causes heart attacks and heart disease. So and this is related to low B vitamins and a few other things. So when I test my blood, my be 12 seen the rights here and be 12 Yeah, you know, I was on the low side, but it wasn't like in the deficiency side, but at that point, I also didn't know about this. And then I tested homocysteine, and my homocysteine was like way off the mark. And it's supposed to be between five and 15 conservatively and mine was almost 20. So that puts me in the high rate risk for a heart attack and I'm going Okay, so now I'm on the best diet in the world. And I'm the one who's gonna have a heart attack like what the hell? That's ridiculous. You know, and then going on the way out of this is to basically take polls. Yeah, because I got a supplement non stop. Now to keep on top of that, I'm like, that just doesn't feel right for me doesn't make sense for me. Yeah. You know. So at that point, I didn't chose to research or where can I get food that has been taught specifically in it and oysters came up strong. Actually, oysters are about the most complete food for nutrients lacked in a vegan vegetarian diet, particularly vegan diet, you know, zinc be 12 amino acids. Like there's a lot in the end like an oyster, it's it's like a bit of meat in a shell and there's no name, there's no face, so I kind of felt safe shipping in that direction. Now because there is like I think for a lot of people is a genuine anxiety about introducing animal foods again, because not only had I built my whole persona and my whole life around plants and only plants and it's the only that's the problem because I love plants. You know, and my company sells plans because I believe that plants are massively healing and can do so much people sleep way too much animals they need way more plants. I love plants. You know, I'm going to chop the plants story from the mountaintop, but I'm also going to have some animal foods, because my learning and my experience shows that it's not about just going into a whole new direction that's about integrating slowly over time, allowing us as I you know, I think that vegetarian ism is a possibility. I think, potentially even veganism is a possibility people could do it. It's a full time job though. You got to be so careful about your nutrient intake, you got to be measuring so regularly, you want to make sure and particularly to kids, because you know, b 12 deficiency causes sometimes irreversible neurological damage. So if you've got a child and that child basically begins brain damage because you have an ideology, and that ideology stops you from feeding your child stuff that are really needed because for the last two and a half million years, the bodies that it was produced from was eating that stuff. Sure, that's a lot to carry as an adult I mean, it's as a parent, so I want to do the best that I can do. So they motivated me because it was just me. And they went around, I probably would have just gone with it. I'd be like, yeah, I get a cold every now and again, whatever. I can't be an athlete, whatever, you know, for me, like, looking after animals and not causing cruelty. I mean, that's such a huge important thing. Yeah. And also, what I realised is you don't have to factory farm animals to, you know, have animal foods. I mean, one of the first things we did when we moved on to the farm, is I got guitarra chickens. She loves chickens. She all the chickens have names. She cuddles them, and she plays with them. And we obviously eat the eggs from the chickens and she loves them. So the other thing she told me is that, you know, one of the things I want to the way I raise is with a lot of freedom of here are options. There will clean options, normal poisonous, you try you know, keep us safe, obviously, man. Let's see what you like. So with food, I did this I gave her options. And I mean, it was just pretty amazing to me. How She gravitates the animal foods, like strongly gravitated towards the animal foods like way more than I would have been comfortable initially eating. And then obviously just give it to her because she obviously needs it. It's clean natural food, she's going to want it. You know, if you're eating deep fried chips and you just want more and more and more, I'm like, well, it's probably not because that's something you really need, but it's more like a craving Yes, you know that anti calorie carbohydrate, fat hits, it's an addictive thing and then food companies uses to get people hooked.

So I just started slowly increasing, trying different things, experimenting on myself reading, researching, you know, just building the picture and gently slowly like, you know, going from one direction to another overnight can be as damaging to your health you know, as just staying unhealthy. So, being gentle on yourself taking time. For us living on the farm. We got a cow was my friend Devin. The cow makes milk. So you know, we started making Kieffer and Kieffer was like a game changer for me just such powerful nutrition just so with my body it was interesting because I was totally dairy intolerance. One of the things I love cutting out I was like, suddenly I could breathe clear. I wasn't snotty, I wasn't mucus stop. And then I was a little worried like, geez, am I going to go that way again, but it's a different thing to glow in the dark spark smoke. Yeah, you know, it's a different thing to homogenised pasteurised pus fold. You know, painful old factory farm dairy, which is what most people are drinking. You have your own cow you milk that cow you drink that you ferment that milk, because I do feel that like fermentation is such a powerful thing to make. Particularly your digestive system bacteria levels It's amazing. So it's a different food. I was I was throwing out the baby with the bathwater again, I'm like, I'm allergic to dairy. I must. I probably hit the dairy a bit hard as a kid side would have developed some kind of intolerance to it. But now No problem, no problem at all. So Then we also just ended up having too many roosters because that happens with chickens like if you have a flock with too many roosters, so you got to kind of eat some of the roosters or give them away or something. I was like, You know what? I haven't eaten chicken in 1312 years, something like that. I'm going to go Sagittarius you want to come with me? We're gonna go and slap a rooster. And yeah, Afrikaans fall butcher Yeah. So. So she was definitely I think she was like four years old, right? I'm thinking she's on in traumatises. Kid, but she's like she's had no, she doesn't watch TV. She doesn't you know, she's as clean as I could, like, have a child and see a child. So I'm like, curious to see how she takes it. So we get a rooster and I research online first, cuz I'm clueless. Like, you know, I've never harvested an animal myself before ever. I always relied on someone else doing the dirty work for me buying packets in a shop like cowardly in a sense. And I do believe that if you do want to eat animal foods, like if you can take that life yourself, and you can look that animal in the eye and say thank you. I honour you. Eat that animal fan show. And this is done with consciousness. But if you're relying on some mass industrial corporation to do it for you and terrible conditions, like that's just disgusting, you know, so we got the rooster and I researched like, the most humane way of harvesting chicken and like there are better ways of doing it. You know, so I'm not gonna get into detail but like Kotaro was there she helped me out. She did the whole process with me like didn't flinch. No trouble. No problem. Two weeks before we harvested the rooster. She didn't take his name away. Okay, yeah, she was like, You can't have a name anymore because we can eat it. So took his name on it. Two weeks later, he was in the pot. Crazy.

Nate Maingard 1:30:42
That's why well done. That's

Peter Daniel 1:30:44
such a she loves eating chicken. Like it's crazy. And I had all these and she has all these chickens that she loves. She loves the chicken. She loves the chickens. Yeah, and I mean, I've seen beautiful movies over time that have shown that like the relationship that the herder has with his his goats. You know, this sustain him and he loves them. You know, and we have this relationship with the earth, you know, with all of the plants and the animals. I was also a little bit like, when people start with stories of like plants are more important than animals, plants have less feeling than animals or plants don't feel pain with animals do. It's like, No, that's not what research is like, if you read The Secret Life of plants, plants or sentience, animals, you know if anything, maybe a mollusk is less Indian than a plant, but they're all aware and they all feel pain. You know, if you go and you harvest that plant and you don't first tell it what it is you're about to do with gratitude, like the all chemicals released in the plant that block nutrient absorption in your body is one of the reasons why animals just move the whole time grazing animals can't stay in one place because otherwise the plants have poisoned them, spots can run away they produce poisons. So to life begets life, I mean, it's one of the things I realised that live you need to consume life and some people leave you can get that from staring at the And you never need to drink water, eat food. I've never met anyone like that I tried the experiments didn't work so well for me. And so I think so much of this is just getting down to personal responsibility, doing the best that you can in the life of the tools you have, and with the results that you get, and then being open to the fact that change is inevitable. And that, you know, if you experience something different, and you get positive results from that, no matter if the entire world is shouting against you saying no, that's wrong, you cannot get positive positive results. And I'm talking about like not hurting people, like you know, just living your life, in harmony with the environment in nature, like no one can say anything to you for that really. So, you know, I did further research on to nutrients I tested my blood again. My homocysteine after two years of including what animal foods had halved, was down to eight, which is huge. Sunday now I'm in like moderate risk of heart disease, which is way better than high risk, you know, and before I thought that it was the saturated fat and cholesterol would be causing the issues and then I realised another something called the cholesterol myth. You know they removed all upper level limits on saturated fat now, even cholesterol because they realised that saturated fat and cholesterol not a problem not a problem at all you need them they're essential nutrients essential nutrients. The problem is sugar, massive amounts of sugar causing flexibility in your arteries stop permeability, the LDL can't get through the well the wall anymore, so it gets clogged in stock. Like if we look at it like to me farming and you read a book like Sapiens agriculture the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago was the demise of our natural ecosystems like you start hearing land slashing and burning to grow crops to hold crops to store crops to sell crops. And this is where we really started out down spiral with our interaction with the world at large and also our bodies because grains in the quantity that people consume are not good for them, and particularly in the hybridise high sugary versions of them. They very damaging your You're your sugar metabolism. I mean, it depends on stable amounts of glucose or fructose coming into your body. And if you spiking it major, major damage to your pancreas and your other organs and I think that a lot of people get into plant based foods just default very easily to carb rich foods, they eat a lot of carbohydrates and

Nate Maingard 1:34:19

Peter Daniel 1:34:20
rice and bread like kind of stuff. And if you eating a lot of sugary type foods, candida overgrowth starts in your gut to try and help absorb some of that stuff that's trying to help you. You know, insulin is being pumped out of your pancreas all the time to try and help you know insulin is a major drone your system, your pancreas has to pull minerals to make enough insulin to keep you alive. You know, so it's a very intensive system. So also for me realising that carbohydrates are not an essential food group. It's crazy. If you don't have amino acids, that's why they call them essential like you'll die and you can get amino acids from plants for sure they have a lot lower biological value. So in terms of their synthesis into actual muscle fibres and nutrients, like brain nutrients, like you need a certain quality of protein amino acids school like protein is quite an in depth thing. Like there's a lot of science behind it, you know, and I remember when I was like doing the vegan flag, I would just be like, No, you can get all your protein from green leaves. sekolah you got like this stomach like a gorilla. You know, maybe, but we don't. And often people are like, people are like gorillas having nothing, not when you actually look at the anatomy and you look at the differences. gorillas spend more than half their life eating and chewing and eating and chewing to get enough nutrients out of those leaves. Very different, you know, much more, I'm gonna get into the anatomy people can look into you cherry pick anatomy, like as much as you like. And that's one of the other issues I have. It's just probably I'm not a fan of propaganda. I'm a fan of people doing the best they can with information they have available, doing as much research as they can to understand the world around them and how they fit into it. But to cherry pick stuff just to support your cause. That's to me very, very

Nate Maingard 1:36:01
well that's like what the game changes is done recently which is it has a lot of positive things in it, it's invited but it also is very

Peter Daniel 1:36:09
I loved it. I watched it I was like yes, it's amazing it's evil plants and then I was like yeah, but there was so much crap in there so much stuff that wasn't properly researched so much anecdotal stuff so much slapstick stuff and I'm like, you kind of like lose the you losing the gravity there.

Nate Maingard 1:36:26
Or did you know there was one point that jumps out I'm actually didn't watch the whole thing in the end because I got about halfway through and Carlin our chain we just got to point out it just feels like they're just repeating the same propaganda again and again, but there was a point where they showed like a meat burger and then a vegetarian burger and I was like you showing to junk foods. Whether they're meat or they're vegetarian, they bought that that right, there you Come, come on, at least they give us a beautiful plate of greens and you know something that's just like, yeah, anyway,

Peter Daniel 1:36:56
that's crazy, because I mean, I listened to Joe Rogan's interview with Chris Yeah, just talking about the movie and three hours. Wow, those guys covered a lot. And I really appreciate that they covered so much because Chris really does his homework. I mean, his website is incredible amount of research that he had been done. It's just staggering out. I only recently found out about him. So you know that they're not anti plans. Like, I want it. I love plans, I believe predominantly plans include some animal foods because I feel way better on them. I have more energy on them. I have stable sugar levels of stable emotions, like those things are important. Like your system runs on fat, right? If you're not getting high quality, fat and particularly saturated fat, your nervous system gets fried. Literally.

Nate Maingard 1:37:45
She says, Hey, you actually said yesterday the first time you had like a Springbok, which is a kind of a dear friend, it was a buck here in South Africa. He said the first time you actually had a Springbok steak. It was quite an experience.

Peter Daniel 1:37:57
I mean, this is you know having you know Plants more than a decade, and then suddenly, like trying to get an animal like there's a lot of mental emotional stuff that goes on there. And I totally expect it to feel like death warmed up after that, like, passing out. And you know, when the exact opposite happens, it's like, oh, shit now what's, like that thing that I just did that I thought would be terrible for me, but I just felt I had to do it for whatever reason. And now suddenly, I've done it. And it was amazing. Like, shit, what now? Does that mean? I have to do it again. Can I turn my back on and just run the other direction? And people do this in their lives and all sorts of ways, not just with food, you know, challenging your own boundaries. I mean, that's gross. Yeah. So and I've just noticed over the years, I mean, I did. I've always been a kind of slim guy, around like the 63 kilo mark, and I just thought like, that's me. That's my frame. I'm lanky. I'm slim and skinny. And then I read a book, Tim Ferriss book for our body. And it was pretty cool. It's like you want to put on weight muscle mass, you need a train or training this morning. Part of you need to eat like 80% 70 to 80% of the success in gaining any kind of frame is eating enough food to support it. So my old idea of protein was like I only need 20 to 30 grammes of protein a day. But that's highly deficient actually. Like you need like more point eight 1.2 grammes of protein per kilogramme of body weights to maintain a healthy vital frame. I mean, I couldn't do runs I used to love running I just reached a point where I was like, my body getting kidney pain I'm tired like and I wasn't sitting around doing nothing about I was cleaning everything I possibly could. And like literally within days of science add and things like oysters and eggs, I felt the difference. So realise that I was actually just probably protein deficient for many years which is okay if you sit on your computer all day long, you don't do any exercise you know, that's that's fine. But being on the farm, it's quite a physical thing. Like I've got to chop wood and carry water like there's a lot of stuff to do so suddenly army has like skinny city, guys. And I can't really do much stuff. And I have to say I've got a quick learning curve of like, pushing my body really hard, but then crashing, because I don't have the nutrition to support it. And then in reading his book and running through his process, you know, going from 63 to 77 kilogrammes within like, a couple of months. That's what you know, it was like only a couple of minutes of gym time a week, like minimal.

Nate Maingard 1:40:22
Yeah, and that's after a lifetime of not being

Peter Daniel 1:40:24
a lifetime life, you know, and then feeling what it feels like to have an extra, you know, 10 kilos of muscle mass on the frame. It was fucking amazing. Like, it feels really, really good. Like to feel strong and vital in your system. You know, it was like, it was to me as much of an aha to when I did my first real food detox, and I felt so clear. I felt it was that same kind of thing. You know, but at this point in my life, I'm not like, a Yo, yo, so I'm not gonna go Oh, it's all about getting the animal foods and like, plants are like useless and ridiculous. And I'm like Eric carnivore now.

Unknown Speaker 1:40:58

Peter Daniel 1:41:00
you know, and I monitor myself I know how much animal food I need for my Physiology or whatever I'm if I'm doing strong training routine, I may have to increase that a little bit. If I'm not doing that much training, I can decrease a little bit. But you know, I feel the hunger you know, and it comes up for me and obviously, any animal foods I choose to consume, they're going to be the highest quality wild foods or certified organic or home grown as in the case of our eggs and our chickens and our dairy because again, you want to make sure that you're not absorbing the toxicity of Environmental Farming, catastrophe farming, you know, this is no excuse for battery caged hens you know 4k photos is no excuse that stuff is bondable needs to be destroyed. Oh, yeah. So with it, but but doing that doesn't mean that you have to destroy your own health by not including foods that you may need, you know, and I'm not saying you have to have those foods, but some people do and they don't because they just they they care for the animals too much and like I get that I totally get that. But I don't see how making yourself unhealthy. killing yourself is really going to help them long term.

Nate Maingard 1:42:02
Well, it's you actually just hit a point that I, that came up for me while you were talking, which is that what we kind of started on almost is this idea of how integrated we are into the hole and the hole is integrated into us. And so this idea of not wanting to hurt an animal but then hurting the animal that is the self as the base thing that that doesn't make any sense. So if the information that comes in is okay, I need to include some animal products. And yes, I can choose that to do that in a conscious and sustainable and kind way, then technological that must be a part of how the system works then, and I'm a part of the system and therefore I must take care of this I must be selfish so that I can help so that I can be a part of a solution. I just did there's such a an engine that has never sit sat with me or this idea of denying oneself, almost like monitoring oneself and being like, and I spoke with someone just recently who said well, you know, I would rather get sick and be vegan and just start and I'm like that then you you hurting an animal really badly.

Unknown Speaker 1:43:00
Choose to have children

Nate Maingard 1:43:01
you really hurting? Yeah. Then you make your choice for someone else. Exactly. Which was my point to that person as well.

Peter Daniel 1:43:07
The parents do that all the time.

Nate Maingard 1:43:08
Yeah. Let's see, what do I say cats? That was a vegan cat. Anyway, so I, oh my gosh, I feel like we should probably kind of start wrapping up

Peter Daniel 1:43:18
the ways we're just getting going. Come on.

Nate Maingard 1:43:24
We gotta we gotta fit some of

Peter Daniel 1:43:25
the vision because like when I looked into it, you know, I love the utopian ideas of this past human civilization of high consciousness and awareness who lived on neon lights and that kind of stuff. But like, in this time, in the space on this planet, in this form, in this dimension, like there's no archaeological evidence for it whatsoever. Like if you look at hominid ancestry, like they will cruising around eating animals and plants. There's no history of vegetarian hunter gatherer society doesn't exist. So vegetarianism can only exist in a farming, agrarian society and farming and agriculture is really the thing that's damaging most of the environment and I'd argue That's, you know, potentially that's damaging us to and as many people are seeing, certainly veganism has never been tested. There's no culture that's ever been vegan. I mean, that's a total experiments if people are trying that, and they just need to be aware that it is an experiment. You don't know what the outcomes are, you know, we've had quite a few decades now all vegans, and there is some research coming. What I found amazing is there's research coming in now comparing healthy omnivores to vegans and vegetarians. We've never had that before, right? You know, this, I didn't have those studies, I had only ever seen the studies that showed vegetarian vegans compared to the sad diet people. And there you always going to have better outcomes for the vegetarians because it's like heart disease is going to be better like this. And I that's what I read when I was, you know, into this early on, but I didn't recognise that. They were also a bunch of studies that actually did look at healthy omnivores and vegetarian vegans and their their health is the same there's no one doesn't live longer than the other one doesn't have more disease and the other, you know, they're all 50% less likely to die. From all causes, so just by adding in real food like you double your survival rates, like no brainer,

Nate Maingard 1:45:07
yeah, well now I thought that was interesting cuz you were talking about that yesterday and saying and I was like well then so vegetarians and omnivores both have same survival then it's probably fine to be vegetarian but that's so hot that I wasn't like because I know but then also it depends on the quality a lot of vegetarians who are so healthy are vegetarians who the because they're eating

Peter Daniel 1:45:28
dairy and definitely it's much easier to be healthy right

Nate Maingard 1:45:31
totally. And if they're including fermented dairy and fermented, whatever animal stuff they are eating from is a difference there. Anyway, so one of the other the we do have to be is because I actually have to go at some point. Unfortunately, we have to do this again. But um, I wanted to ask something around because one of the big things around food right now and animal food in particular is it's destroying the planet. And so could you just touch on I know you mentioned it earlier that

Peter Daniel 1:45:58
regenerative agriculture one of the biggest Studies it's always cited. It's called Life stocks long shadow. It was actually recently by the UN quite a few years ago. And that showed that. I mean, we'll get the numbers right in the show notes. Yeah, I think it showed something like greenhouse gases from from farming animals, like 18% versus transportation at like 15%, something like that. So obviously, cheese will farming animals is more intense, but unfortunately, they weren't comparing apples to apples. And this has been acknowledged now, public domain, you can look into this. Like it's not hidden. They were basically comparing all inputs into animal farming, including the feed and the water and the transportation of vinyl product like anything related to that, from its inception to its final destination with vehicles. It was just emissions wasn't taking account the whole like manufacturing process and fuel production process and maintenance process extraction. Yeah, exactly. And when you actually take it into account, the farming apparently comes in at about 3% sense of emissions. And that's the little farming normal in inverted commas, which is totally abnormal. Now when you consider something like holistically managed farms, which I've only just recently becoming aware of so basically it's, it's modelled again on a continuum, the way that animals and ruminants have worked in the past, like when you had massive herds of bison, going across the Americas, you know, they would move in these huge tight condensed herds, and they would heavily over graze the grass. And obviously, they would all them and y'all would land there and they'd mix it all up into the grass, but they wouldn't stay there and move very quickly because all the big tooth animals were hunting them, they had to keep moving. So the grass was like hammered, but given lots of nutrients and then left and it would then grow quick, pulling carbon into pulling carbon into it, and then at some point, those animals we back, trumpet straight down again, consuming all of that and Then it would grow quick. And again. So all of this growing grace, you know, it's grabbing hold of carbon. So any numbers have been crunched on this and you can actually have a carbon sink if you do proper rotational grazing with animals in this way. Good friend of mine is trying to do this with sheep. Amazing. So there is a way of doing it where animals are healthy because they eating grass, which is they should be eating, they're on the move. So they're not standing in their own shit the whole time. They're not over grazing or two dead grass, which is so common, you move them off the grass springs back, it's getting the nutrients it's been cut down. You know, in Africa, the way they often do it is they burn the grasslands. So the grass grows up to new heights. And then it burns. And this is a huge problem worldwide, the burning of grass. Now this doesn't exist because all the big ruminants about if they were they're busy cutting the grass down, the grass would be healthy. So there's, there's a lot to the farming thing and you know, people just need to look into it and start making more decisions about who you support with your money. Because this is the amazing thing about money in the world today and the way business is set up and economies, if you buy that product, it's a vote for what that company does in the world. So if you support companies that are factory farming and damaging the ecosystem, then you're supporting that directly it's your votes. And becoming aware that there's a major major difference is huge, you know, and we'll, I mean, I'll post some stuff for links people can look at great, but there's a big difference. So your choices do count, they do matter. You know, you're not just small and have no influence in the world. And if you and your friends get together and choose not to support factory farming, and to support organic agriculture, like together, you making huge difference, and then that spreads out and before we know it, like there's no money for the big agri corporations to do what they do, they start doing regenerative farming, and they start planting organic crops because that's where the money is. They start planting trees because that's where the money is.

Nate Maingard 1:49:54
So the green coin is actually

Peter Daniel 1:49:55
how we can we can change the world without choices. Beautiful. Unlike ideology that prevents you from seeing the wood for the trees, rather open up to stuff that actually works and use your body as the as the testing ground, because that's really your vessel to test like, this is the thing we were given. You can feel what feels good in your system or not totally

Nate Maingard 1:50:15
beautiful. Thank you so much. I mean, I really think this idea of continuum is one that is such a present, one for now and acknowledging that we don't have to invent everything in new we in fact, have a history and that history can tell us a story. And from that we can make decisions now using our big brains using our technology. And I think you've been You are such an example of that in the way that you run your business the way that you run your home. I mean, I'm going to show that if you don't mind this the photo of the before and after on your platen. This is within a seven year period you've created Eden and it's just phenomenal. So thank you, Peter. I really appreciate you coming on I know we could be where this is like barely scratching any surfaces but but if anyone's listening and would like to hear more from Peter obviously all the things will be in the show notes, but you can also asked for like, hey, I'd love to hear more about that particular thing and we can arrange do another call sometime soon and or another sit down chat, whatever. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much, Peter, really, for all that you're doing for yourself for being so selfish that you help the world basically, really appreciate it because it's bloody beautiful.

Peter Daniel 1:51:17
And thank you for doing what you do to share these kind of stories. I mean, well, touching on ping pong, totally.

Nate Maingard 1:51:27
I had such a wonderful ping pong match with Peter and Devin and some of the other other lovely folk who live on their farm. And I don't even know how what like what you can possibly be thinking right now after that. It was really one of my most enjoyable conversations like because it was just so broad ranging and it really inspired me to realise how much good stuff I have that I want to share with you. I know some of the stuff in there was challenging. Like I would love to hear. There's I A little I put one link I think to a book in the in the show notes naked with If you forget, that's where you go always naked was And then you can search in the search bar for for any of the sort of like Peter would be a good search. I'm good at You can also find this episode of naked with forward slash Peter. So yeah, it was just like we talked about vaccinations. And I know for a lot of people, that's a super polarising topic, but we have to have the capacity to have these kind of conversations. Because there are a lot of really smart really switched on people who are having opposing opinions. And if we don't find a way to converse about them with compassion and empathy for the fact that everyone is doing the best that they can to make good decisions for themselves and the people they love. We can't do that. Then what the fuck are we going to do? How are we going to move forward? How do we find truth? There's actually a wonderful woman named amber who I'm going to have on next year to talk about vaccinations. She's one of the most knowledgeable people I've come across quite recently. Actually, I've known her for years, but I just discovered that she's an incredibly knowledgeable human about this and hopefully can give me some insights to understand that particular topic. 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I so appreciate getting real with you. Thank you to every one of my guests has been on this year. I'll see you in 2020

Just a few of the things we cover…

  • How to reprogram our negative conditioning
  • How ‘pattern interrupts’ can help to change how we experience life
  • The gift in long-term relationships
  • Why you should write a list of things which make you really enjoy life
  • How we could use blockchain to provide real value and save the planet
  • If you’re not wealthy, can you afford to be healthy?
  • Why chips/crisps are one of the most expensive things on the planet
  • Peter talks about how his diet has shifted after being a 100% vegan for 7 years
  • How peter built muscle from 63kg (139 pounds) to 77kg (169 pounds) in a few months
  • The realities of regenerative agriculture
  • Seriously, so much more……… ?

Simple tools for change

  • Gratitude practice – list 5 things every morning (and/or every evening).
  • Start by focusing on adding good things rather than removing bad things.
  • What causes you pain in the day (places, people, etc)? Make a list and let go of that shit one thing at a time!
  • Write a list of things which make you really enjoy life and refer to that when you’re in a low state.
  • Track state every hour through the day, track for a few days, give your state a rating of 1 to 10.
  • Fake it until you make it.

Details in the episode…

Some of my fav Peter quotes!

"You are a part that reflects the whole" -Peter Daniel of @soaringfreesa on the Getting Naked With Nate podcast Share on twitter "Be selfish, be very selfish about your time, your energy, the feedback you get from the world about you…you can change, you can decide to do something else." -Peter Daniel of @soaringfreesa on the Getting Naked With Nate podcast Share on twitter "Touch the earth, gently and lightly, as you would like to be touched" -Peter Daniel of @soaringfreesa on the Getting Naked With Nate podcast Share on twitter "Too much do do do, more be be be" -Peter Daniel of @soaringfreesa on the Getting Naked With Nate podcast Share on twitter

Interesting Links & Things

Loess Plateau before and after

Peter’s farm before and after

Peter’s body after and before

After on the left, before on the right

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